Look—the face of war surely is changing, but the tendency of this author to assume (or at least imply) the inevitability of war and its causes is deeply flawed.
The imagined inevitability of violent conflict and competition between "civilizations" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sometimes a people must defend itself, but it’s all too easy to go too far and graduate from self-defense to "preemptive" conquest and intimidation. The desire to pacify the world by force only makes it a more hostile place.
Sometimes we must defend ourselves, to be sure, but we cannot fail to recognize the historical context that has led to world wars, a cold war, and terrorism—and that is a history of conquest and colonialism by western powers. Social changes in the west—a distaste for war and hegemony—has led to many reforms, including a shift from colonization by force to economic domination, but it’s still essentially the same thing, and people recognize this. They still find their way of life under threat, and many of them are prepared to respond violently.
It doesn’t make violence okay—but the violence of terrorism the west fears is only the natural result of the west’s own greed, and it must be understood in those terms. Shockingly, many people in the west are still confused about this—and still don’t understand why many people in other parts of the world may not want to live the way we do, but may feel cornered into doing so. They’re not alone—many westerners themselves feel they are pressured into a stupid, competitive, and greed driven way of life that threatens their wellbeing, and even the survival of the species.
So, to talk about the changing face of war, to speak of war as if it’s simply human nature, or to discuss how professional soldiers must unshackle themselves from the ugly complications of public mistrust or overmanagement—well, it’s ridiculous.
The "distaste" of the western public for war is simply a recognition of all these factors—that there’s profit in war, that wars are rarely just (even if they are "legal"), and the west has been pissing on the rest of the world for quite some time. This distaste fueled the shift away from colonialism toward economic globalization, but we’re not done—people want something more ecologically and cross-culturally viable. Thinking people in all civilizations and cultures hate war and all other forms of violence and oppression, and always have. They understand that war is the most pathetic of all ways to solve a problem, and that any person who would wish to excel at it or undertake it as a profession for profit and glory must be terrubkt immature or insane.
Real people (though frequently not those in power) recognize that a truly smart, agile, multi-skilled soldier is first and foremost a peacekeeper. His or her duty is not to a nation, a government, or personal gain, but to peace and prosperity for all—including and especially his enemies. A true warrior seeks understanding, not "victory."
A true warrior makes peace within himself and always uses the least possible level of force. If he must settle a difference at gunpoint, then he knows he has lost, because violence only escalates matters and delays further conflict.
Ultimately, war is about power, and power is about controlling a situation. Everybody requires a certain amount of power/freedom in their lives, but the kind of power some crave—freedom at the expense of another’s—is untenable for an intelligent species in a finite ecosystem.
The social contract is not supposed to be a dubious exchange of personal loyalty for state-sponsored security, between man and government… Such a view implies a kind of "Hobbesian" state of nature which is deeply and hopelessly cynical; not to mentione inherently flawed.
Human beings are basically good and basically honest—only when they are desperate or in pain do they become avaricious and hostile.
The social contract is supposed to be a basic sense of trust, good-will, and respect between people; a recognition of commonality between people, irrespective of cultural differences.
If we had such a social contract, I daresay there’d be no reason at all for war, or even for states or laws, or state-sanctoned economic policies, because individuals could band together quickly, responsively and responsibly for the common good—they would recognize that their own wellbeing is inextricably linked to the wellbeing of others, and working forward from that, they’d strive to cooperate instead of pitting themselves against each other in petty struggles (military, economic, or social) for land, resources, or prestige.
The way that such a society might deal with conflict would always be firm, but flexible—and hardly ever violent. It would always be ready to work with people—thus avoiding atrocities like terrorism by never allowing anyone to become so alienated and cornered that they feel terrorism or war is their best or only option to improve their circumstances. Unfortunately, as we have centuries of war, malice, greed, and mistrust to overcome, people are born and bred believing that their only way to improve their lot is through competition and conflict.
So, to summarize—I agree with the author in that the face of war must change and become more mobile, responsive, and adaptable if it is to continue to be effective… but I would go futher and say that a true responiveness and adaptability lead to a basic refutation of war itself—they lead to creative harmony, and we should aim for THAT, instead of being content to settle for better ways of slaughtering each other. Let’s improve our view of each other and set our sights a little higher.
There is a great quote often attributed to Plato that says, “Only the dead have seen the end of war.” This is a wonderfully pithy statement. We can say with historical certainty that war has been a perennial feature of the human condition. Whether man is predisposed to war is another matter, but, taken on evidence, we can say that he is definitely inclined to it, for whatever reason. You may not like this. Nevertheless, the fact remains. The West may be better at war than the rest, but I’m sure there are plenty out in the world who would like to close the gap. With your help they may just do that.
It is also specious reasoning to blame all war, or the existence of war, on the West. Surely you don’t believe that. Other civilizations have fought tremendous wars with little to no interference by the West. Even to blame all recent wars on the West is a dubious matter. Japan’s attack on China or the US was non-Western, in the strictest sense. To blame that aggressiveness as a byproduct of Western imperialism is to walk the dog of proximate guilt too far.
But let us pursue your line of reasoning. The West is to blame for all current war. Therefore, the attack of 9/11 is essentially our own fault. We are unjustified in doing anything about it. Or, to be fairer, I will ask: what are we justified in doing, precisely? Anything? You’ve already identified the problem with throwing out the broad rubric of “defense.”
The really harmful thing about this line of thought, which is amazingly prevalent despite its suicidal connotations, is that it makes everyone else in the world a victim. Only the West is to blame for all problems. The barbarism of the terrorist is a completely understandable response to the “evil” of European civilization. In what way did the US or the West force millionaire Osama bin Laden to “feel cornered?” The West freed much of the Arab world from Ottoman rule, has pumped billions of dollars into their economies despite their fiery hateful rhetoric, and has showed remarkable restraint in dealing with these peoples, yet we receive in turn death and more hate. Which culture is exporting violence, I wonder?
You are in fact correct that moral people hate war. Of course that is true, but I also hate taxes, however these things are still necessary. When faced with kill or be killed, I choose the former. You may roll over and try to “improve our view of each another” but that will get you exactly one place – dead. The flighty, utopian dreams of a harmonious world are exactly that, dreams. War is a permanent fixture in the annals of mankind. There is no reason to believe that it can be escaped. To broach such reasoning only leaves a civilization open for destruction. The Mongols, the Huns, or the Cimbri Horde were all perfectly willing to accept the pacifism of their quarry. It makes stacking the skulls of your prey that much easier.
A quick survey of history confounds the claim that men are primarily good and prone to peace. Peace throughout time has been aberration basically because it implies the tacit acceptance of everyone to do nothing. Once one party breaks the silence all else are compelled to respond or die. Good in the world is precious, wonderful and desperately rare. Mother Teresa was acclaimed as the exception, not the rule.
But this doesn’t matter because we still have to deal with the inane idea that competition, especially in the market place, is somehow the height of evil. The world has experimented with the opposite course. Russia and China can probably tell you something about the results. Communism killed close to 100 million people in the 20th century. Capitalism, by contrast, cannot boast such impressive numbers. And you would have us revisit such Marxist ideologies? Have you ever been to Cuba? Do you know how many people every day attempt to escape such “utopias” and boat, swim, or drown with the chance to arrive at our land of evil competition? Thousands. You don’t see flocks of “pressured westerners” swimming to Cuba or immigrating to China to escape the “stupid, competitive, and greed driven way of life that threatens their wellbeing, and even the survival of the species.”
The fact that some do not compete well in this world is hardly just cause for them to lash out and slaughter people in high rise buildings, but you would make these villains unwitting pawns compelled to enact these crimes by the terrible West. This victimization of the world is awful and must stop. At some point someone on this planet needs to take responsibility for the things they do.
Let us continue. Your view of the military is also unrealistic. What soldier ever in the history of war pursued “understanding” over victory? You will be hard-pressed to find him. If you are speaking, once again, about misguided fantasies of a better world I might understand this statement. Reality says otherwise. The nebulous notion of “understanding” doesn’t appeal to the soldier. It never has. Soldiers fight to win or for each other. Risking one’s life for “understanding” is liberal mythology run amuck. To say that a soldier’s primary duty is to “peace and prosperity for all” is also insanity. That rubric would be news to any soldier alive today or to any soldier that has ever lived.
War is real. Terrorism is real. The danger posed to a weak civilization is real and demonstrable by history. Everything you have mentioned is mere illusion. Your notion of progress and the eventual triumph of peace is a pleasant fiction never experienced by man and lacking the reasonable surety of success. The application of violent force is always lamented, as it should be, but preparation for its eventual need must be a priority of any people wishing to survive in a harsh world. Come down from the clouds and face the reality of the world you live in. The attempt to style the actual world as “ridiculous” comes across as bad comedy.
On a side note, I would like to encourage you to register on this site. O-Nerd, thus far, has been lacking your particular mode of thought. Your continued contribution would be beneficial to everyone here. I hope you would choose to shed anonymity and join the discussion in full view. Thanks.
RE: This is ridiculous by willwaddell :: NR7 :: Show
There is a great quote often attributed to Plato that says, “Only the dead have seen the end of war.” This is a wonderfully pithy statement. We can say with historical certainty that war has been a perennial feature of the human condition. Whether man is predisposed to war is another matter, but, taken on evidence, we can say that he is definitely inclined to it, for whatever reason. You may not like this. Nevertheless, the fact remains. The West may be better at war than the rest, but I’m sure there are plenty out in the world who would like to close the gap. With your help they may just do that.
It is also specious reasoning to blame all war, or the existence of war, on the West. Surely you don’t believe that. Other civilizations have fought tremendous wars with little to no interference by the West. Even to blame all recent wars on the West is a dubious matter. Japan’s attack on China or the US was non-Western, in the strictest sense. To blame that aggressiveness as a byproduct of Western imperialism is to walk the dog of proximate guilt too far.
But let us pursue your line of reasoning. The West is to blame for all current war. Therefore, the attack of 9/11 is essentially our own fault. We are unjustified in doing anything about it. Or, to be fairer, I will ask: what are we justified in doing, precisely? Anything? You’ve already identified the problem with throwing out the broad rubric of “defense.”
The really harmful thing about this line of thought, which is amazingly prevalent despite its suicidal connotations, is that it makes everyone else in the world a victim. Only the West is to blame for all problems. The barbarism of the terrorist is a completely understandable response to the “evil” of European civilization. In what way did the US or the West force millionaire Osama bin Laden to “feel cornered?” The West freed much of the Arab world from Ottoman rule, has pumped billions of dollars into their economies despite their fiery hateful rhetoric, and has showed remarkable restraint in dealing with these peoples, yet we receive in turn death and more hate. Which culture is exporting violence, I wonder?
You are in fact correct that moral people hate war. Of course that is true, but I also hate taxes, however these things are still necessary. When faced with kill or be killed, I choose the former. You may roll over and try to “improve our view of each another” but that will get you exactly one place – dead. The flighty, utopian dreams of a harmonious world are exactly that, dreams. War is a permanent fixture in the annals of mankind. There is no reason to believe that it can be escaped. To broach such reasoning only leaves a civilization open for destruction. The Mongols, the Huns, or the Cimbri Horde were all perfectly willing to accept the pacifism of their quarry. It makes stacking the skulls of your prey that much easier.
A quick survey of history confounds the claim that men are primarily good and prone to peace. Peace throughout time has been aberration basically because it implies the tacit acceptance of everyone to do nothing. Once one party breaks the silence all else are compelled to respond or die. Good in the world is precious, wonderful and desperately rare. Mother Teresa was acclaimed as the exception, not the rule.
But this doesn’t matter because we still have to deal with the inane idea that competition, especially in the market place, is somehow the height of evil. The world has experimented with the opposite course. Russia and China can probably tell you something about the results. Communism killed close to 100 million people in the 20th century. Capitalism, by contrast, cannot boast such impressive numbers. And you would have us revisit such Marxist ideologies? Have you ever been to Cuba? Do you know how many people every day attempt to escape such “utopias” and boat, swim, or drown with the chance to arrive at our land of evil competition? Thousands. You don’t see flocks of “pressured westerners” swimming to Cuba or immigrating to China to escape the “stupid, competitive, and greed driven way of life that threatens their wellbeing, and even the survival of the species.”
The fact that some do not compete well in this world is hardly just cause for them to lash out and slaughter people in high rise buildings, but you would make these villains unwitting pawns compelled to enact these crimes by the terrible West. This victimization of the world is awful and must stop. At some point someone on this planet needs to take responsibility for the things they do.
Let us continue. Your view of the military is also unrealistic. What soldier ever in the history of war pursued “understanding” over victory? You will be hard-pressed to find him. If you are speaking, once again, about misguided fantasies of a better world I might understand this statement. Reality says otherwise. The nebulous notion of “understanding” doesn’t appeal to the soldier. It never has. Soldiers fight to win or for each other. Risking one’s life for “understanding” is liberal mythology run amuck. To say that a soldier’s primary duty is to “peace and prosperity for all” is also insanity. That rubric would be news to any soldier alive today or to any soldier that has ever lived.
War is real. Terrorism is real. The danger posed to a weak civilization is real and demonstrable by history. Everything you have mentioned is mere illusion. Your notion of progress and the eventual triumph of peace is a pleasant fiction never experienced by man and lacking the reasonable surety of success. The application of violent force is always lamented, as it should be, but preparation for its eventual need must be a priority of any people wishing to survive in a harsh world. Come down from the clouds and face the reality of the world you live in. The attempt to style the actual world as “ridiculous” comes across as bad comedy.
RE: This is ridiculous by willwaddell :: NR7 :: Show
On a side note, I would like to encourage you to register on this site. O-Nerd, thus far, has been lacking your particular mode of thought. Your continued contribution would be beneficial to everyone here. I hope you would choose to shed anonymity and join the discussion in full view. Thanks.