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RE: Disappearing Options
Come on Brandon! Get off that high horse. It is a reasonable question. Would he defy a Mormon leader who he believes is relaying the word of God?
I know that it sounds far fetched now, but if, say, the confrontation with Islam became much worse, then the religion dimension could become huge. I think a Catholic President would defy the Pope if he believed it necessary for the security of the USA. Could Mitt? Would Mitt?
The Catholic President would not fear excommunication, shaming, and being cut off from his family. That really does happen to Mormons who are deemed to be apostate. I am sure Mit has done it to others.
This could work the other way too. Suppose he is a very good president who achieves liberal reforms that his church does not like. The discipline of LDS is such that the Church could campaign against him having a second term. That would just be be democracy, but you have to factor in the discipline of LDS overcoming free will.
It is a vulnerability for the Chief.
RE: Disappearing Options by Brandon
I answered that question. Did you want details or something?
That really does happen to Mormons who are deemed to be apostate.
But what does it take to be an apostate worthy of excommunication? I’ll give you a hint: A lot more than disagreeing with the prophet about political actions.
I am sure Mit has done it to others.
Ok, excommunication isn’t funny – but this cracked me up. It’s just so, so far from the truth … and yet you’re sure about it.
The more I know how little you know about how my church works, the more I understand your odd opinions of it.
Suppose he is a very good president who achieves liberal reforms that his church does not like.
Like what, exactly? I know tons of liberal Mormons. (My Mission President’s wife once told me she didn’t understand how any upstanding member of the Church could be a Republican.) There are even Mormons serving as Democrats in Congress and as Governors.
The discipline of LDS is such that the Church could campaign against him having a second term.
First, please tell me what the “discipline of LDS” is. Second, yes, the Church could campaign against him … but is there any precedent for that? I understand there was Prop 8 in California, but can you name the last time the Church endorsed or came out against a specific candidate in any race?
the discipline of LDS overcoming free will
Can’t. Stop. Laughing. I’m going to use this “discipline of LDS” terminology thing. It’s great. It’ll go right next to “The Book of the Marmons.”
RE: Disappearing Options by Occams
Would he defy a Mormon leader who he believes is relaying the word of God?
I answered that question.
And I think you answer was “Yes”, without any explanation.
So that means that Mitt either does not believe that the Mormon President channels God the Father, or that he would be prepared to defy the word of God. Which is it?