RE: Roadmap?
People are not all born with equal opportunity and then screw up their chances of having a comfortable life through bad decisions.
I didn’t say anything about a chance at a comfortable life. I was responding to the proposed idea of a significant number of people dying “because” the government isn’t providing them health services. My opinion is people are the responsibility of themselves first, their families second, and their communities third.
There are lots of ways for that last one to work, and the federal government using tax money to provide health services is one of the worst ones of which I can think. It’s inefficient on so many levels (e.g., poor use of money, poor arrangement of moral incentive/reward, poor response time, poor record of “health services” actually improving lives).
Is this what your LDS teaches?
Who’s my LDS?
:D
Seriously, though. You’re confusing the purpose of government and the moral responsibility of individuals.


RE: Roadmap? by Occams
There are lots of ways for that last one to work, and the federal government using tax money to provide health services is one of the worst ones of which I can think. It’s inefficient on so many levels (e.g., poor use of money, poor arrangement of moral incentive/reward, poor response time, poor record of “health services” actually improving lives).
There are many assumptions there which I would challenge. I have addressed self improvement already. Families can and do often help each other, but not all families are so loving or have the capacity. Local community? Why should they care if not for christian Charity. We use government for things that will not happen through individual action: such as defense; health and education. I don’t see how welfare is so different.
Was it Travis who injected something into the other thread about the human ability (or tendency) to compartmentalize knowledge and experience in order to ignore that which is inconvenient? This is sometimes called selective amnesia. It often happens in family and national histories that the black sheep get ignored and we can exalt in our noble heritage.
The desperate situation of the homeless and poor is manifest fact and evidence that your other options are not working. It is selective amnesia to ignore this and take the position that the moral responsibility of others should take care of these people rather than the government using my tax dollars.
There are not enough loving generous people in the world to do this job. Those who are like that are precious and should not be overly exploited by expecting them to carry the burden of us all.
Who’s my LDS?
I though you were a passionate follower of JS. But this is not a persona criticism. No doubt you give your share to charity, and much more than I do, through your tithing and the good works of your church. I just find it an interesting case of selective amnesia.