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RE: Green electricity should be cheaper
Then, like I said, you haven’t changed anybody’s mind.
And you missed my point—-they want the same amount of power, but they don’t want it from Fossil Fuels; they want Solar and Wind and they want it NOW, not later (as do I).
Futures markets and other kinds of derivatives markets work just fine — if they’re regulated properly. And “real goods” markets fail badly if they’re regulated poorly.
No, they don’t work; a fact that has been proven time and time again with ‘corrections’ and ‘market crashes’—what you get, even in well-regulated markets is speculative pricing; where raw materials and finished goods are sold for prices that far outstrip their real values. Gold, gems, metals, oil, gas, shares of companies…it’s all fake costs caused by markets—-and don’t get me started on the fake prices for diamonds; controlled by the DeBeers family..
I think you missed the point. The EPA has already demonstrated that it’s willing to give at least one kind of fracking a pass. It seems unlikely that they’ll put themselves in the awkward position of saying shale fracking is bad when they already said coalbed fracking is fine.
I don’t discount this—but I’m hopeful saner minds prevail this time—-considering that the EPA that released that report was under a government run by Big Oil/Gas interests. And that less than a year later the ‘Halliburton Loophole’ was born.
RE: Green electricity should be cheaper by scottb
And you missed my point—-they want the same amount of power, but they don’t want it from Fossil Fuels; they want Solar and Wind and they want it NOW, not later (as do I).
No, I didn’t miss it — it was my point: technological change is the only viable solution. Switching to wind/water/solar power is a technology change — it’s not a “mind” or “heart” change.
Remember the change you were advocating back when we started this thread? It was about doing with less, about not wanting all that “unneeded” stuff. I said it’ll never happen — and it hasn’t. Instead, I said, we need to change technologies — find a way to produce all the energy we want without the environmental impact.
You’re just proving me right.
No, they don’t work
Again, just demonstrating you don’t know what you’re talking about. Those are examples of poorly regulated markets.