plenty of nerds who are still upset and threatened about having a black liberal as their President and Commander in Chief.
Barry, I think there is more to it than your mere comment. I’m going to ignore race here, primarily because I believe most of the Omninerds are ignoring Obama’s race as an issue. I’m not going to focus on how Obama’s Race may shape his thinking; because that’s far more complex of an issue to address here. You’ve called me an ‘enlightned moderate’ in the past; but most polictical tests I’ve taken show me to be a libertarian with conservative leanings where fiscal and certain social policies are. I consider myself to be a pretty middle of the road conservative. I believe in taking care of those completely unable to care for themselves; but I believe that a majority of that care should come from private charity, with the public option making up the difference, if any.
The bigger issue, in my opinion, is the fact that the de-facto control in both sides of the Congress that so-called ‘social liberals’ have. Certain of their policies from the past (which they continue today) have led us down the path of ‘bread and circuses’ and the concept of ‘entitlement’ that many people feel. I’ve heard people say that they are ‘entitled’ to their jobs; that the company ‘owes’ them, the government needs to ‘take care’ of them, or some other such nonsense. As a personal example, I hear a co-worker grumble loudly every day about how much he’s lost in ‘benefits’ (insurance costs on the rise, no 401K matching) since his former employer merged with the company we work for; after all he’s ‘entitled’ to them. And, he balked when they offered him a raise to offset the cost increast for insurance. Several people left the company this year because of the fiscal decisions to cut the benefits, because they feel they are ‘entitled’ to them. Never mind that the parent entity lost 30 million last year and will lose about the same this year. They originally thought it would be closer to 45 million, but they’ve seen improvements in the economy; plus their own cost saving measures that have helped alleviate those losses. I came in after the merger; my health care costs went up nearly 600%—to nearly $800/payroll (and that’s MY contribution) this year, while his went up $40/payroll. I could have kept the same ‘cost’, merely traded down to a ‘high deductible’ policy where nothing but prescriptions and 1 ‘wellness’ visit per year were what was covered until I met my $4,000 deductible. I opted out, and have found coverage elsewhere I’m paying for post-tax. Yes, I know there are medical savings accounts, but those are a ‘use it or lose’ policy. A policy that I question—why should the insurance company get to pocket my contributions if I’m healthy enough not to get sick, or lucky enough not to get injured?
Many of the Omninerds here only know through history class about the last time de-facto liberal control of the Congress. The House was veto-proof (67% in 1976)—which occured during the Carter Administration; I lived it. I was in High School at the time—I recall gasoline being too costly for many of us. Minimum wage at the time was $3.10—and most high schoolers worked for sub-minimum of $2.74. More than a waiter/waitress, but less than an adult in the same job. Granted, we weren’t taxed, but I recall $1.25 for a gallon opf gas in 1980. Coincentally, this was the last time there was a veto-proof majority of any party; currently, we’re at about 53% in the house Democrats, but there are numerous moderate Republican/Conservative and other parties to almost make certain of a majority vote on many issues—based on the old-school ‘quid pro quo’ that runs politics. The Senate isn’t veto-proof either (60/40 split), but a majority vote is almost guaranteed. The ‘checks and balances’ are missing.
What are things I, personally am unhappy with about the first 10 months of the Obama Presidency? How about the 32 ‘czar’ postions created that answer directly to the President and bypass Congress? That is rather troublesome. How about the fact that, where healthcare is concerned, the real issues aren’t being addressed—issues like tort law reform, or encouraging greater competition among insurance providers across all 50 states. How about ‘monopoly busting’ policies that would call to question the merger between two very small players in the Snack Food market to the point that they would call it off?
On the economy—creating short term ‘road repair’ employment is not the answer—I, for one, would like to see programs created for entrepreneurs who are working on alternative energy and fuels (forget fusion and nuclear, they’re pipe dreams). These will be the job incubators of the future. More monies available for technical and trade schools—check out http://www.mikeroweworks.com—because not everyone is cut out to be a rocket scientist.
Our current economic state goes back to the Carter administration, continued through ‘The Reagan Years", and still continues today. The Financial Sector has lost a majority of the checks and balances set forth during the 1930’s and beyond. Now, we’ve got near-control of the financial sector by the federal government; as well as control of major sectors of private industry by the feds as well. This didn’t work out so well in the past in other countries; I don’t know why we think we can do it any better.
My wife’s daughter is due to give birth in March; I wonder what our country will look like when she is graduating High School, if it exists at all. Russian Academic Igor Panankin has asserted that 2010 will be the beginning of the end of the USA; that it will split into about 6 parts. California Republic, under control of China; Texas Republic, under control of Mexico; Atlantic America, which may join the EU; and the Central North-American Republic, controlled by Canada. The other two parts are: Hawaii, controlled by Japan; and Alaska, which will be re-absorbed into Russia. His predictions are based on alleged ‘classified’ data from FAPSI (Russian Intelligence) and his own analysis of the US Debt; which he considers to be an enormous ‘pyramid scheme’.
Will this breakup occur? I don’t know; I hope not. However, I also cannot see how this country can survive much longer with the mounting debt and deficit spending. Nor can I see how it can survive without something giving us a proverbial ‘shot in the arm’ to ward off the cancer of lethargy that grips this country.
Yes Dwayne, I think you are a an enlightened moderate, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. You are certainly not a libertarian, which has undertones of licentiousness.
The problem with being a fiscal conservative is that all worthwhile change costs money and nothing would happen if we all took that view.
May I suggest that you read Thomas Frank’s book What’s the matter with Kansas Its a lilttle old now, but still highly relevant to how you feel.
The selfish attitude of the workers you describe used to be the norm and still is in many parts of the world. You need to have a little capital and be an employer or share holder to see things the way you do. The worker feels that he is entitled to a fair deal from his employer in return for his hard work. He gets no share of the profits of his employer and has no share in decision making, so he feels no responsibility for how well his company is doing. He is simply a factor of production which must be properly paid for.
Thankfully, this attitude has broken down here in recent years as workers have come to understand that if their employer goes down they will be much worse off themselves, so they are willing to make sacrifices in their entitlements to help their employer – well perhaps most are. But we don’t expect the person supplying raw steel to the plant to take less for his product, and the worker is selling a product too.
If we expect our employees to share in the risk of running a business then they should also share in the decision making and the profits.
That book demonstrates well how workers being willing to take hits for the good of their country and company has actually damaged both terribly. They have been conditioned to accept the de-industrialisation of America and the closing down of huge numbers of farms because they are nonviable and cannot compete, because workers get too much in this country.
Remember that red and blue map during the election. Everyone noted how red it was in the centre with just tiny patches of blue in the snotty, liberal, blueblood, bookish north east and the decadent far west. Most of that red is in counties that used to be strongly liberal. The mid west and great plains areas. They gave the country socialists like Eugene Debs, progressives like La Follette and unionists like Walter Reuther. They spawned the UAW and IWW who convulsed the country in often bloody industrial disputes. Radical farmers organizations like the militant Farmer’s alliance or Farm Labor Party or the Non-Partisan League enlisted farmers in radical protests. The NAACP even ran its seminal desegregation case, Brown v. Board of Education, on friendly home ground in Topeka. Almost all these organizations no longer exist.
I think that is bad. No one wants the conflict of aggressive radicalism, but it indicates to me that these were proud hard working Americans who thought they were worth something and were prepared to fight for it. A country like that has a competitive advantage. Today they are all just willing to suffer for the common good and watch all that was achieved in the past flow down the drain.
When conservatives are running for office they do it on emotional things like gun control, abortion, gay rights, family values etc. They make resounding speeches against these things and appeal to good, honest but simple folk, who believe that we need reforms in these areas and that these guys will give it to them. But the great dream of the political conservative professionals is to get a popular workers movement that will roll back all the “socialist” gains that have been won for workers over the last century and so make business more profitable. They also want to get rid of all that pesky regulation that has crept in to try to overcome market failure by forcing fair competition and consumer benefits. So the conservative voter never gets protection of babies from abortion, more liberal gun laws, etc, but he gets banking and stock market de-regulation and a lower basic wage, and fewer social security benefits — all at the time when he is starting to need those things because his income and quality of life is slipping and unemployment is looming.
I am to become a grandfather for the first time in February so I share your excitement about your new arrival: warmest congratulations. I am more optimistic about the future of this country. We do have the collective smarts to get ourselves out of the situation we have put ourselves in, but it is going to require faith in ourselves, and some radical politicians who will need to spend a lot of our tax dollars doing it. We need to be brave.
That Russian is just indulging in wishful thinking. I have heard those claims often in Eastern Europe since 1989 and I have argued with the people making them. They are envious of us, and want us to fail. The Third world war is over. It took place, fittingly, in the Third World with most of the fighting done by proxy, and it was won (as usual) by the strength of the American economy, not by our military or moral superiority.
Our opponents hate us for this. Perhaps they got their hopes up when we elected an obviously stupid person as president who seemed to be fulfilling their dreams, breaking the country, and accelerating its demise. We are dragging ourselves out of that mess and it is vital to support the leaders who we feel are taking us in the new direction. This is why I defend Obama on ON.
My prediction is that Europe will become stronger, but an even more powerful economic block will form in eastern and southern Asia. When China, India, Japan, Indonesia, and Vietnam get into their economic stride the US economy will look like nothing more than a market for their exports. America will soon not have the strongest economy or the most powerful military, but it will still be prosperous and able to defend itself.
Personally, I would welcome closer ties with Europe and that may well be a response to the Asian Development. The Canadians and Australians will go that way before us because they are already closer. I am talking about economic union and not federation. The Europeans have had more time than us to adjust to the loss of their empires and see themselves as they really are. We need to become like that too.
America might even be a better place to live and watch our grandchildren grow up.
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Thank you for that heartfelt response.
Yes Dwayne, I think you are a an enlightened moderate, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. You are certainly not a libertarian, which has undertones of licentiousness.
The problem with being a fiscal conservative is that all worthwhile change costs money and nothing would happen if we all took that view.
May I suggest that you read Thomas Frank’s book What’s the matter with Kansas Its a lilttle old now, but still highly relevant to how you feel.
The selfish attitude of the workers you describe used to be the norm and still is in many parts of the world. You need to have a little capital and be an employer or share holder to see things the way you do. The worker feels that he is entitled to a fair deal from his employer in return for his hard work. He gets no share of the profits of his employer and has no share in decision making, so he feels no responsibility for how well his company is doing. He is simply a factor of production which must be properly paid for.
Thankfully, this attitude has broken down here in recent years as workers have come to understand that if their employer goes down they will be much worse off themselves, so they are willing to make sacrifices in their entitlements to help their employer – well perhaps most are. But we don’t expect the person supplying raw steel to the plant to take less for his product, and the worker is selling a product too.
If we expect our employees to share in the risk of running a business then they should also share in the decision making and the profits.
That book demonstrates well how workers being willing to take hits for the good of their country and company has actually damaged both terribly. They have been conditioned to accept the de-industrialisation of America and the closing down of huge numbers of farms because they are nonviable and cannot compete, because workers get too much in this country.
Remember that red and blue map during the election. Everyone noted how red it was in the centre with just tiny patches of blue in the snotty, liberal, blueblood, bookish north east and the decadent far west. Most of that red is in counties that used to be strongly liberal. The mid west and great plains areas. They gave the country socialists like Eugene Debs, progressives like La Follette and unionists like Walter Reuther. They spawned the UAW and IWW who convulsed the country in often bloody industrial disputes. Radical farmers organizations like the militant Farmer’s alliance or Farm Labor Party or the Non-Partisan League enlisted farmers in radical protests. The NAACP even ran its seminal desegregation case, Brown v. Board of Education, on friendly home ground in Topeka. Almost all these organizations no longer exist.
I think that is bad. No one wants the conflict of aggressive radicalism, but it indicates to me that these were proud hard working Americans who thought they were worth something and were prepared to fight for it. A country like that has a competitive advantage. Today they are all just willing to suffer for the common good and watch all that was achieved in the past flow down the drain.
When conservatives are running for office they do it on emotional things like gun control, abortion, gay rights, family values etc. They make resounding speeches against these things and appeal to good, honest but simple folk, who believe that we need reforms in these areas and that these guys will give it to them. But the great dream of the political conservative professionals is to get a popular workers movement that will roll back all the “socialist” gains that have been won for workers over the last century and so make business more profitable. They also want to get rid of all that pesky regulation that has crept in to try to overcome market failure by forcing fair competition and consumer benefits. So the conservative voter never gets protection of babies from abortion, more liberal gun laws, etc, but he gets banking and stock market de-regulation and a lower basic wage, and fewer social security benefits — all at the time when he is starting to need those things because his income and quality of life is slipping and unemployment is looming.
I am to become a grandfather for the first time in February so I share your excitement about your new arrival: warmest congratulations. I am more optimistic about the future of this country. We do have the collective smarts to get ourselves out of the situation we have put ourselves in, but it is going to require faith in ourselves, and some radical politicians who will need to spend a lot of our tax dollars doing it. We need to be brave.
That Russian is just indulging in wishful thinking. I have heard those claims often in Eastern Europe since 1989 and I have argued with the people making them. They are envious of us, and want us to fail. The Third world war is over. It took place, fittingly, in the Third World with most of the fighting done by proxy, and it was won (as usual) by the strength of the American economy, not by our military or moral superiority.
Our opponents hate us for this. Perhaps they got their hopes up when we elected an obviously stupid person as president who seemed to be fulfilling their dreams, breaking the country, and accelerating its demise. We are dragging ourselves out of that mess and it is vital to support the leaders who we feel are taking us in the new direction. This is why I defend Obama on ON.
My prediction is that Europe will become stronger, but an even more powerful economic block will form in eastern and southern Asia. When China, India, Japan, Indonesia, and Vietnam get into their economic stride the US economy will look like nothing more than a market for their exports. America will soon not have the strongest economy or the most powerful military, but it will still be prosperous and able to defend itself.
Personally, I would welcome closer ties with Europe and that may well be a response to the Asian Development. The Canadians and Australians will go that way before us because they are already closer. I am talking about economic union and not federation. The Europeans have had more time than us to adjust to the loss of their empires and see themselves as they really are. We need to become like that too.
America might even be a better place to live and watch our grandchildren grow up.