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RE: Vaccines didn't cause GWS (or autism, or ___, or ...)

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The main thing those graphs lack is plotting vaccination rates along side incidence rates, which would, I think clarify most of the questions you ask.

And why is correlation being presented here? Why aren’t we looking at studies demonstrating causation? You know, real science stuff.

Almost no medical study demonstrates causation. They hypothesize a causation and then show correlates that support or refute the hypothesis.

And finally, if we’re going to jump on-board without question based on these simplistic correlation plots, why wouldn’t we do the same thing in reaction to the vaccinations-vs-autism/ADHD stats?

Because the autism stats don’t show anything like the vaccination stats do. There has been a recent increase in the reported cases of autism, yes. But the criteria defining autism have broadened, and far more routine screening is done, and those account for the overwhelming majority of the observed variation.

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RE: Vaccines didn't cause GWS (or autism, or ___, or ...) by Brandon :: NR9

You didn’t comment on the big drops without vaccines. Even if we show vaccination rates vs incident rates, I don’t think those fit with your claim only vaccines have the ability to drop rates by more than ~10%.

Also, do you have any solid and succinct references showing the autism rates haven’t risen as the vaccination rates have? The stuff I can find shows pretty big increases.

Lastly, it’d be interesting to see plots of deaths or lasting injuries due to these diseases. I know preventing any occurrences seems better than preventing only serious consequences, but it’s worthwhile to know if a vaccine is preventing deaths / serious consequences, or just preventing incidents.

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