Pointless discussion

I don’t think that there are any teachers of atheism. It is not a religion. It is a position that is usually arrived at alone by a rational mind excluding improbable explanations for observable phenomena. Some people can explain their reasoning better than others and we can learn from them, but it is not like there is a serious plan to teach the subject. Most atheists are quite indifferent about religious beliefs of others, so long as they are not proposed as part of scientific solutions.

The Creator option defies Occams Raser so it is automatically suspect to, and rejected by, informed rational minds. This is not a religious decision. It is simply normal scientific method.

The scientists who are trying to solve the puzzle of how the universe began will not be helped by religious people who try to explode every unknown into proof that God exists. There will be many unknowns in such a complex study, and as they are subjected to scientific exploration their number will decrease, but only if irrelevant religious wishful thinking is eliminated.

Very few people have the mathematics to explore explanations for how the universe may have began. It is kind of pointless to have the discussion in English as is happening here. If there are holes in an argument they will appear in the mathematics describing the physics, and so they are the languages that must be used.
Attempts to explain this mathematics in lay terms lends itself to the kind of naive religious objections that we are seeing here. There does not have to be a simple lay explanation, so one will probably never be found that satisfies devout Christians.