Gun History

Really! Pull the other on. It has bells on!

And are you seriously suggesting that guns in homes would have stopped the mighty and professional armed forces of Germany, Russia, Japan etc? In an all out invasion they would not have thought twice about a little danger from householders with small arms. Jokes about gun crazy Americans are common overseas. I think you have taken one from Adm. Yamamoto too seriously.

I can tell you for certain sure that while Australia admires many things about the United States, gun laws are NOT one of them. False statistics about Australia are promulgated by the NRA because it is deeply afraid that if the new gun control laws there are successful they will be promoted for the USA.
The fact is that Australia is a very peaceful place where gun crime is rare and less than before the new laws.
It is very difficult to purchase a weapon there so youths have no access, and in the few places where there is occasionally urban violence, it is mostly due to ethnic tensions in neighborhoods with large numbers of new immigrants. Home break-ins are rare, but mostly done by young unarmed drug addicts.
The very last thing that Australia needs is for these punks to be able to buy guns and ammo at the K mart.

Of course, these laws cannot fix all of the many and varied problems caused by having guns among civilians. They were not expected to do so. They were expected to send a strong message that the society and its elected government were fed up with the damage being caused by idiots and psychos with guns.
It worked there because Australians are not living in fear of gun violence entering their homes. That genie has not escaped from the bottle there yet as it has in the USA. These laws are attempting to put a stopper in the bottle. I hope it works for them. It is too late for us. Our Constitution unplugged the bottle centuries ago.

Nice of you to quote, re Australia, that “It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms”, but the problem is that we are NOW 10 years beyond that and the 2 categories cited that actually involve firearms, murder and armed robbery, NOW have rates lower than before those gun laws. Of course it’s easier to concoct an argument if you if you ignore the latest figures and argue your case based on decade old information. Nice bit of sleight of hand too with the “In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.” quote; a simple check reveals the actual number rose from 6 to 18, then in the following year fell back to 6. In other words a statistical outlier and easy to produce big % changes when very small numbers are involved.

When I first posted this comment, I was using a very old laptop and could not post this link for some unknown reasons. Paul Harvey The post was not meant to be inaccurate or plagiaristic, but food for discussion.

After a little research, I find his comments to be mostly true. He might have twisted a few numbers, but the fact remains that violent crimes have risen in the past ten years, with a rise in violence against the elderly. Guess Australian’s need to buy back all of the razors, hammer’s, bats, knives and etc. People do the crimes not the weapons.

i would like to use this in a research paper i am using in class if possible can you point me to any of your sources for this?

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