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Albert Einstein quote on bees

Comment comment by Brandon on 16 March 2007

A quote concerning the extinction of the honey bee is listed in various places online as such:

If honey bees become extinct, human society will follow in four years.

Can anyone verify if he actually said this? My online search has turned up nothing concrete or official.

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Four years would be long enough to produce a manmade pollenisation infrastructure, particularly if the fate of the entire human race was at stake.

I don't know whether Einstein Said that But Holy Quran did 1400 year ago to this century.

There is a complete sura named honeybees in the holy Quran. God explains the importance of bees for humanlife in this Sura by saying:

67. And from the fruit of the date-palm and the vine, ye get out strong drink and wholesome food: behold, in this also is a sign for those who are wise.

68. And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees, and in (men's) habitations;

69. Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and follow the ways of thy Lord made smooth: there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colors, wherein is healing for men: verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought.

70. It is Allah Who creates you and takes your souls at death; and of you there are some who are sent back to a feeble age, so that they know nothing after having known (much): for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Powerful.

71. Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others: those more favored are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favors of Allah?

So it is obvious that something goes godly wrong. For a century, as humanbeings, we are living as opposers to god Unfortunately.

Global Warming

Extinction of species

Intensive pollution

Collapsing morality

Widespread Unhappiness and Depression

We didn't obey the rules of Creator, those rules would be our source of equality, health, and happiness.

I am sorry, My English is not so well but you will understand my purpose.

Yours respecfully.

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RE: Albert Einstein quote on bees by scottb :: NR7

Searching around a bit, the variant I found that seems most like Big Al, and seems (to me) to be most credibly attributed to him is "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe, then man would only have four years left of life. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man."

The farthest back I've traced it is to a 2005 article in Der Kritischer Agrarbericht by Walter Haefeker, who ends the article with his quote:

„Wenn die Biene von der Erde verschwindet“, so Albert Einstein, „dann hat der Mensch nur noch vier Jahre zu leben; keine Bienen mehr, keine Bestäubung mehr, keine Pflanzen mehr, keine Tiere mehr, keine Menschen mehr.“

That matches the English version of the quote I gave. Haefeker doesn't give a source for the quote, though. Like everyone I've seen, he uses it as a throwaway to lend emotional support for his position (he very vocally opposed genetically modified crops). The footnote that looks like it might offer a source for the quote just says, "for more in the theme of this paper see the position paper of the German Beekeeper's Federation, in 'Genetic Agriculture and Professional Beekeeping', from December 2003", with a pointer of where to download it.

But, let's assume for a moment that he really did say something like this. Does it really affect the argument materially?

Einstein was a theoretical physicist. I've seen no evidence that he was a beekeeper or in any way an expert on the ecology of bees. I have to doubt he was more than a casual fan of the subject.

Granted he was a very smart man. And it's hard for a layman to argue with him - it seems obvious that a loss of the bee population would severely affect plant reproductive cycles, and that that would seriously hurt our ability to feed both ourselves and our livestock, and that can't be good.

But it takes much more of an expert than I am - and probably much more of an expert than Big Al was, at least on agriculture - to judge just how big that effect would be and whether mankind would survive it.

Now, I'm not at all arguing that Einstein was wrong, or that the bee problem isn't significant. I simply don't know the answers, and I think this kind of baseless "appeal to authority" is a cheap shot. Who cares what Einstein said about bees? Even Antonio Banderas has more claim to being an expert in that area - at least he plays one on TV.