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Piracy is not new

Comment comment by wallywonderswhy on 27 February 2007

I personally liked the fun loving original pirates of the Caribbean. These guys don't sound so fun loving. I short time ago I wrote a post that seemed to be pretty popular in a small town way, it had Muslims, Americans, an undeclared war, and pirates.

Jefferson's Koran

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RE: Piracy is not new by Eye.Of.Sage :: NR6

These pirates are beaten back by Cruise ships are Chinese fisherman...I think 'well trained and armed' is an exaggeration.

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RE: Piracy is not new by nickfranklin :: NR5

i read your linked essay. wasn't sure what you were getting at...

jefferson bought his koran in 1765.

the barbary war kicked off in 1801.

are you suggesting TJ could SEE THE FUTURE?

but seriously: i suppose your argument is that jefferson maintained his koran throughout the war to better understand the enemy, which isn't predicated on him buying it just for the war. and i'm sure he flipped through it at least once when things started getting crazy. but still... have you read the koran? it's just as screwy and full of weird metaphor as any other religious book. i do this military thing sort of professionally--maybe you do too, i don't know--and in my sort of professional opinion, you'd have to be pretty badass to get enough insight into your enemy's way of fighting war from reading his literature. the whole thing seems kind of a non sequitur to me. sorry. sometimes, a book is just a book.

(incidentally--speaking of the barbary war and badass...)

i didn't understand the article you linked to in the first sentence of your essay, either. i don't know anything about representative ellison, but apparently he's been muslim since he was 19... if the guy wants to swear in on a koran--why not? there's no state religion around here, man. you're thinking of somebody else's country.

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