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RE: The troops in Iran & Afghanistan

Comment comment by Occams on 18 November 2007

Is your logic about only vets having the right to oppose the war based on their experience giving them a superior insight, or is it that their service grants them a right to object by removing any doubts about cowardice?

Both arguments are forlorn in my view. All Americans are involved in a war being fought by American forces. Just like for abortion, if they have a fundamental belief that it is wrong and unjust then they have an obligation to oppose it. Few would claim that only those involved in abortion have earned a right to comment on its legality.

I think that the insight that our vets have gained into the futility or otherwise of the war is interesting, and their views should be given a serious weighting because of that experience - but let's hear from all Americans, and the world, about whether we should stay there.

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RE: The troops in Iran & Afghanistan by LordDilly :: NR8

Is your logic about only vets having the right to oppose the war based on their experience giving them a superior insight, or is it that their service grants them a right to object by removing any doubts about cowardice?

That would be neither. Just as intellectually lazy people throw out the "chicken hawk" appellation to avoid actual debate, so would the reverse. What I was referring to in my post is the abject childishness and supreme arrogance of these war protesters who go beyond carrying their stupid signs and chanting their vacuous slogans (which is their right) to actively attempting to undermine the war effort by blocking military shipments. I have a hard time distinguishing their "protests" from enemy sabotage.

but let's hear from all Americans, and the world, about whether we should stay there.

Yes, let's listen to the "world" which has shown time and time again it's collective willingness to abandon any people to death and chaos for the sake of political expediency, or to give the US a black eye and go "nyah nyah na nyah!" Or, we could listen to the Iraqis who are increasingly taking control of their country... naaah, they're a bunch of stupid A-rabs, Europe know what's best for them, and that would be death squads and religious tyranny.

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