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RE: Anabaptist Culture
And just as much contributors to global warming as other 'modern' farms. As you have said, you believe man has caused global warming---and farming is one of the biggest contributors.
I've also said that I don't believe that trying to return to some kind of pre-industrial world is any kind of meaningful solution.
It's their choice, and how they find their happiness.
Yep. Same with monks. But they don't deserve praise for it, and they're not getting it from me.
An interesting proposal--and with it, you've addressed the food issue..what about housing? or are you saying you'd build dormitories for them as well--how would you handle family units? how about clothing? or would you put them in jeans and t-shirts?
Hey - it's a concrete, cheater-proof proposal to address a significant part of the problem. Shelter is another problem, and it, admittedly, doesn't address that - it wasn't intended to do so. I don't see clothing as a particularly substantial issue - it doesn't appear to be an existing problem that homeless people are wandering around naked. Though I suppose the same sources we use to supply the military with fatigues would probably address the issue, if necessary.
I'm not even sure that shelter - for nights, and inclement weather, and such - is that insurmountable an obstacle, if we really wanted to address the problem. As I see it, the main difficulty is that whatever space you use for it will be pretty much trashed. Ensuring that those who use the space don't abuse it (litter, graffiti, urination and the like - not unauthorized use) is the hard part.
My goal here isn't to do anything more than to try to meet minimum needs. Food and shelter seem to be the primary problems. I don't see the goal as trying to "improve" their lot in life - that's their responsibility. I see it as improving the society in which I live.
It's called' Angel Food Ministries.
It's not possible they could scale it up to be anything more than the usual meaningless sop to religious conscience - more useful as a recruiting tool than for actually addressing a social problem.
It needs to be available to everybody, or it doesn't work.
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RE: Anabaptist Culture
Those farms would be dozens of times more efficient if they were worked as modern farms instead. The market for Amish goods just isn't significant - it would hardly be missed if it went away entirely.
And just as much contributors to global warming as other 'modern' farms. As you have said, you believe man has caused global warming---and farming is one of the biggest contributors. Are you also aware that agricultural runoff from 'modern' farms is the number one watershed pollutant?
Personally if the Amish (or any other group of people for that matter) want to live their lives away from the modern world, let them. It's their choice, and how they find their happiness.
The market for Amish goods just isn't significant - it would hardly be missed if it went away entirely.
Yup..and it would completely destroy the economy of Lancaster County, PA if it did. Already, large numbers of Amish have been moving to Ohio, selling their lands to developers and buying much larger tracts in Ohio. There has been a measurable loss to the economy of Lancaster County, which depends on tourism and a couple of outlet malls.
Well, I actually have a proposal.
An interesting proposal--and with it, you've addressed the food issue..what about housing? or are you saying you'd build dormitories for them as well--how would you handle family units? how about clothing? or would you put them in jeans and t-shirts?
But here's the gimmick - absolutely anybody can go. From the beggar on the street to Bill Gates. We don't even try to ensure that only the "needy" take advantage.
There is actually a program much like this---though there is a 'cost' involved. It's called' Angel Food Ministries. There is no income guideline for participating; for $25.00, you get food enough for an average family of four for one week. It's also not 'old' or 'dented' can food, either. They also offer frozen meat packages as well. Oh, but it's usually run by a local church.
As to your Katrina comment--there was a LOT of failure there at all levels. There still is. There was a lot of NIMBY attitude about the housing trailers by some of the people in the more affluent areas too. Katrina is a major embarassment to us. We cleaned up Charleston, SC after Hugo faster than we have with Louisiana and Mississippi.
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