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RE: Realistic Aims

Comment comment by Brandon on 18 April 2007

I agree this is the crux of the issue. The problem is there are thousands of kids who write gory poetry, are socially withdrawn, have obsessions with classmates, etc - and are really of no harm to anyone. Cho (who should have stayed in his country of origin where no one has guns) displayed enough disturbing behavior to warrant counseling - and such was given. What, beyond that, could the school have done? Kicking him out of school wouldn't have prevented the shooting - it may even have promoted it. Social acceptance may have turned away his wrath, but it didn't appear he wanted any of that. It's possible a persistently concerned classmate could have become his friend and exerted influence in his life, but that can hardly be the officially promoted response by the university.

I know this may be insensitive of me, but I wonder how he was able to kill an entire class of 30 people. I guess everyone just ran around screaming hoping Cho would off himself before he pointed the gun at them. If the whole classed would have rushed him, there's no way he could have shot them all. Maybe society as a whole needs to be more assertive and able to react in emergency situations.

It's also interesting that if one of the other students was packing heat and was able to effectively wield it, the death count would no doubt have been less.

Lastly, I think someone needs to develop a security system that will instantaneously debilitate everyone in the room/plane/etc and notify the authorities. Electric shock is probably the most obvious way, but maybe some sort of gas could be used. In any case, the system could be triggered by remote... or by the sound of a gunshot... or by screams. Or, there could just be a few big emergency buttons scattered throughout the room. The person pressing them would be debilitated, too, and those doing so without reason could be fined, so I can't picture it being activated as a prank. Is cost the only reason not to implement something like this?

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RE: Realistic Aims by guyvia :: NR5

As for the treatment given, the reports I have read indicated he was seen a few times by psychologists for after various events, but nothing that would be considered serious counseling.

Also, modern humans have the fight aspect of fight or flight largely deprecated, since we so rarely face real threats like Cho. Although the correct response is to fight back, for someone that has never tried that before in their life, under less stressful situations (like a bully), it is hard to cope with such an extreme condition. It is easy to say to fight back as a group, but how do you coordinate it when there is a shooter in the room. Yelling 'Get him!' is a guarantee to be next. I think you are also downplaying the unbelief that comes with something horrific like this. Not there, it is easy to say you would react well and sacrifice yourself for the others. Remember, the only passengers that fought back during 9/11 were the ones that knew how it would end via cell phone, and they had the advantage of suprise on their captors.

As to your suggestion of the security system, I think that is an idea that sounds great on paper. Would you install one in your house, in case a gunman made entry?

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Fortress of Solitude Boy by Anonymous :: NR0

I know this may be insensitive of me, but I wonder how he was able to kill an entire class of 30 people. I guess everyone just ran around screaming hoping Cho would off himself before he pointed the gun at them. If the whole classed would have rushed him, there's no way he could have shot them all. Maybe society as a whole needs to be more assertive and able to react in emergency situations.

Man, what planet have you been on? Do you have a fortress of solitude or something that has allowed you to circumvent the 24/7 news media coverage of this event?

I ask because it is quite obvious that you have learned little of the details of this event. The shooter didn't shoot 30 students in one classroom, he entered multiple classrooms and shot randomly. Several professors and several students were shot at and many killed preventing the shooter from entering classrooms by barricading doors with their bodies. The death count would have been certainly higher had it not been for a great number of peoples actions. People "didn't run around screaming" in those classrooms but rather took cover and sought to prohibit further entry into rooms. If someone busted in on your office unannounced and just started shooting your first instinct is to get cover... you will find it hard to suddenly coordinate a unified rebuff of an attack with loud gun fire muffling your voice.

I'm surprised at how few facts you have heard from this event. Please do share with us the location of your fortress of solitude so we may all speak as though we are aware of the situation but not have the burden of having to actually read or watch a news report.

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Fortress of Solitude Boy by Anonymous :: NR0

I know this may be insensitive of me, but I wonder how he was able to kill an entire class of 30 people. I guess everyone just ran around screaming hoping Cho would off himself before he pointed the gun at them. If the whole classed would have rushed him, there's no way he could have shot them all. Maybe society as a whole needs to be more assertive and able to react in emergency situations.

Man, what planet have you been on? Do you have a fortress of solitude or something that has allowed you to circumvent the 24/7 news media coverage of this event?

I ask because it is quite obvious that you have learned little of the details of this event. The shooter didn't shoot 30 students in one classroom, he entered multiple classrooms and shot randomly. Several professors and several students were shot at and many killed preventing the shooter from entering classrooms by barricading doors with their bodies. The death count would have been certainly higher had it not been for a great number of peoples actions. People "didn't run around screaming" in those classrooms but rather took cover and sought to prohibit further entry into rooms. If someone busted in on your office unannounced and just started shooting your first instinct is to get cover... you will find it hard to suddenly coordinate a unified rebuff of an attack with loud gun fire muffling your voice.

I'm surprised at how few facts you have heard from this event. Please do share with us the location of your fortress of solitude so we may all speak as though we are aware of the situation but not have the burden of having to actually read or watch a news report.

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Never miss an opportunity. by Occams :: NR6

Outside VA Tech on the following day:

LINDA MCGUIRE, TOMMIE ZITO MINISTRY EVANGELIST: Well, we came here today to encourage, but most of all the reality is that some of those students that were shot are in hell today. And I wanted to come and let the other students know that we didn’t, they didn’t - some went to hell but they all didn’t have to go there. That we have a choice. That we can say to Jesus because he is the only way into heaven.