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RE: Apples and oranges

Comment comment by LordDilly on 29 March 2007

By buying carbon offsets in an amount corresponding to what he emits, he's doing exactly what he preaches.

Ironic that a dude who hates Christianity so much puts any stock in some rich dude buying what amounts to environmental indulgences. If Gore actually believed what he is saying, he'd do something other than paying other folks to reduce his pollution. It's insane! We, the unwashed masses are expected to to the hard work of preventing the coming environmental Apocalypse while Gore is actually polluting even more since the release of An Inconvenient Truth but it's okay 'cause I'm buying indulgences....er...carbon offsets. The Tennessee Valley Authority just installed fifteen new wind machines in the Buffalo Mountain site, bringing that site's production to 29 megawatts of electricity, enough energy for 3,780 homes. Of course, the average home is 2,300 square feet, not 10,000. And since this is a zero-sum game, Gore's mansion is essentially squandering the green, plus (supply and demand) bringing up the cost of green energy for Joe and Jane Schmoe. Gore is the worst kind of hypocrite- the rich kind who can afford to reverse engineer (or whatever) his phat ass mansion to make it a helluva lot greener. Imagine if he massively reduced his carbon footprint and bought carbon offsets equal to his old polluting self-- that would mean he actually gave damn.

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RE: Apples and oranges by scottb :: NR7

So if the issue is that carbon "indulgences" aren't an effective solution, argue that - I happen to disagree, but I'm no expert on the subject.

What you've made is a thinly disguised ad hominem attack, not an argument that's relevant to the global warming debate.