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God's creative freedom

Comment comment by NomadSoul on 15 May 2008

I was reading up on this earlier today. Apparently believing in aliens is no longer a problem because if it was, it would be like putting limits on God's creative freedom.

Well, okay, but then is the Church now prepared to accept God's creative freedom in making people Protestant, or in allowing people to invent and use birth control? or in making people homosexual? And speaking of creative freedom, aren't writers creations of God, and therefore an extension of His creativity when they write works like Harry Potter, the Golden Compass, or the Davinci Code?

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(At least tangentially related)

It seems (for the last 1700 years or so, at least) much of mainstream Christianity has been focused on making the divide between mankind and God as large as possible. God is portrayed as having characteristics opposite humanity in almost every respect - Humans change their minds and you can touch them? Well, then, God never changes His mind and you can't touch Him.

I don't get it. Yes, God is good and exemplifies the ideal life, but how in the world is He to be an example to creatures who have no hope of adopting any of His characteristics? More importantly, how can a human enter into a loving relationship with such a god? Isn't that, afterall, the key purpose of existence according to the teachings of Christ?

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Wrong Premise by AnonBCA :: NR5

r in allowing people to invent and use birth control? or in making people homosexual?

I think the problem here is that you're attempting to latch onto the premise that God is in everything that happens here on earth.

    • Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. - Psalms 51:5

After the "fall of man" (Adam) man fell out of the image of God (by "image" the bible means "attributes" or "qualities") after falling out of image man-kind as a whole was judged ("upon thy belly though shalt go and dust thou shalt eat all the days of thy life) The "belly" in the bible is the desires, or imaginations of men (women)...and "dust" is the fruits of those imaginations and lusts...

God's creative freedom in making people Protestant,

Don't blame God for the downfall of man. God has always had a righteous line of people EVEN among the Israelites...the Zadok priesthood remained sanctified even though Israel as a whole had turned away...the same thing happened when Jesus came (Scribes, Pharrisies, Sadducies...all Sects of Judism) and the same thing happens today (Sects of Christianity) Those are all caused by the imaginations of men...

and therefore an extension of His creativity when they write works like Harry Potter, the Golden Compass, or the Davinci Code?

No...you can't use the standard process of deduction with the afore mentioned premise.

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Re: God's creative freedom by gnifyus :: NR7

Read C.S. Lewis' space trilogy: "Out of the Silent Planet" , "Perlandra" , and "That Hideous Strength". The books imaginatively consider the role of God in a universal setting (In this case Mars and Venus, but hey; it was written in 1938.)

An interesting side concept: On the 'Mars' planet, three completely different species are capable of rational thought and civilization. (Of course, there's no wars either.)

And speaking of creative freedom, aren't writers creations of God, and therefore an extension of His creativity when they write works like Harry Potter, the Golden Compass, or the Davinci Code?

This is a pantheistic view of things that I'm sure the Catholic Church does not hold. Perhaps they feel that things of this nature have the influence of Satan in them.

On another thought, why doesn’t the Vatican just wait until extraterrestrial life is actually found before they bother "making a statement"?