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Sea Shepherd

Comment comment by galton on 04 March 2008

The press have widely fallen for the Japanese whale killers' announcement that 'acid' was thrown onto their killing ships. In fact, the substance thrown onto the Nisshin Maru was nothing more than rancid butter - a constituent of which is indeed butyric acid, but which is harmless to humans, and far from conforming to the stereotype that the Japanese wished to evoke by using the emotive word 'acid'.

My personal opinion is that the Sea Shepherd people are quite justified in taking *any* form of direct action that prevents whaling, even where this results in the loss of whalers' lives. As most of you are logically bound to agree, as it seems you voted overwhelmingly for the "Using full, lethal force..." options in the recent "Castle Doctrine should limit one to..?" poll - or does the right to self-defence in one's home apply only to bipedal primates?

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RE: Sea Shepherd by VnutZ :: NR8

Just FYI - although not in this case, the Sea Sheperd group actually sink the whaling vessels using a ship designed just for that purpose. There's a difference between defending life/liberty/happiness of your personal property (Castle Doctrine) and attacking other people for your ideals - like, I don't like Nikes so I'm going to stab you and throw your shoes in the trash.

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RE: Sea Shepherd by anikochan :: NR3

I like whales. I think they are intelligent, and I really don't like the idea that people who have no survival imperative to do so kill them for market. That's what cows and chickens are for, vegetarians and PETA be damned.

I think that it's lame when the media distorts something with the full intent to make a party more odious or pleasant than it is.

However.

You think these people are "justified" in endangering the lives of whalers or directly attacking with lethal force? For most of those guys, this is a *job*, not something they do to make a statement to anyone. Now, if the whales themselves destroy a ship, that's life. You try to kill something, and yes, it may kill you first. But claiming that what the SS people do is *self-defense* is stretching it a bit. It's not. I might love a whale, but I'm not going to be able to say much in court to defend myself if I shoot someone to prevent harm to befall it. What next, you're going to kill wild orcas that prey on young whales?

Now, if they're chasing them into protected waters and they're caught in the act, they deserve to be treated like any poacher to the fullest extent of the law.