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RE: Schools don't teach moral relativism.

Comment comment by markmcb on 19 October 2006

To be fair, you must admit that neither religion nor reason provide sufficient grounds for morality. Religion is seldom black and white. The very fact that you a member of a church that is but one of many offshoots of "Christianity" makes this point more than clear. While you state that reason cannot get past the individual, you fail to mention that religion often has the same restrictions. At best, religion makes it to the group level. But soon enough that group gets too big and splits. So, much like relativism, churches reason on their interpretations of encounters with their higher source.

So, while I agree with your statements about reasoning morality, I disagree that religion is any better. Your religion is only a source of morality because you say it is, not because your god told me. Until your god removes the doubt, I must assume that you are statistically likely to be incorrect about your god, simply given the total number of interpretations by various groups and individuals of what their god deems moral.

In the end, both systems of defining morality are hindered by the same thing: human perceptions.

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I'm speaking theoretically concerning the existence of morality, while you seem to be approaching it from an application perspective. Because of that, I agree with you while still holding my original point. Morality cannot theoretically exist on anything but a relativistic scale without something "greater" than the individual - and personal revelation is needed to completely remove doubt concerning the selection of a particular moral system.

Reason CAN lead you to morality - a part of 'reason' is accepting the strictures of the society in which you live. It would be unreasonable to do otherwise.