mwhite, you hit the subject exactly as I was visualizing it myself. Except I was too lazy to write it out as thoroughly. Well said!
First, nice thoughts on the topic.
Perhaps I'm dumb, but I don't see how the poll fails to look at what you've mentioned.
Is this:
a) a semantic discussion of the definition in everyday parlance?
yes
b) a religious discussion of who should be allowed nuptial rights under God? Or,
yes
c) A legal discussion of who should be recognized for marriage benefits within our government?
yes
It's all of those. If you think it's simply a legal thing, then say so. If it's just a religious thing, then say that too. If it's both, then that's another option. I'm not seeing how the poll options given don't cover a yes/no answer to any of your questions. The first one is an obvious "yes" since the poll question asks about the definition. The options that follow are the possible combinations of yes/no for your following two questions, repeated twice to encompass heterosexual and homosexual stances.
So, I follow your explanations of your thoughts, but I don't understand your confusion with the poll question. Regardless, let me rephrase:
Marriage is often tossed around loosely, but with very different meanings. When you say marriage, you consider it as the union between (poll choice)? If you leave out "God" or "law," then you are saying these entities play no role in your definition of "marriage." If you include them, you are saying these entities play a role that must not be ignored.

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Define "Marriage" For What Purpose?
I think a very important and missing element to this poll question is how this definition of marriage is to be used. Is this:
a) a semantic discussion of the definition in everyday parlance?
b) a religious discussion of who should be allowed nuptial rights under God? Or,
c) A legal discussion of who should be recognized for marriage benefits within our government?
As it is, I think much of the discussion surrounds disagreement of what definition is under discussion. So, I submit definitions for each of these questions.
In everyday parlance, I would define marriage as Wordnet does, "The state of being a married couple voluntarily joined for life (or until divorce)." This does not restrict the genders of the individuals married nor does it define the level of exclusivity of that marriage. This essentially becomes a personnel definition for those involved. If two people claim that they share this level of a relationship together, there doesn't seem to be any reason to deny them the use of this word to describe that relationship, be it homosexual, bigamous, or whatever.
In terms of a religious definition, this would quite obviously fall to the doctrine or dogma of your particular church. Church leaders under their interpretation of God's direction define who can be married within their church and should continue to do so. Most Christians would agree that marriage should be exclusively between a man and a woman with their union made under God by a faithful leader of their church.
The sticky part comes with c), defining marriage within the law, because, as a society--nay, as a government--we claim to not endorse one certain religion. A Muslim has just as many rights to practice her religion as a Jew, Christian, or Wiccan, as long as she doesn’t infringe on the rights of those others. Nevertheless, our legal definition of 'marriage' seems to be based in very Christian beliefs -- only allowing a single man and woman to marry. Interestingly, our laws don't require that this Christian definition of marriage be carried out in a Christian way. Secular judges and even Elvis impersonators can marry two atheists, as long as they are a man and woman and it creates a Christian-looking marriage, never mind whether it’s actually under Christian God or not. For, requiring a Christian God's involvement would be outwardly endorsing that religion.
For this reason, I don't know how our secular government logically justifies this definition. Politically, it is based in the Christian voting power of the populace. But as a secular government, we should look to the protection of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If these are truly protected by this definition then so be it. I am just not aware of this evidence. However, in lieu of this evidence, I have to suggest that the government should accept the definition of marriage as I’ve suggested in everyday parlance (above) or abandon its recognition of marriage all together. For simplicity, I prefer the latter.
Marriage is for most a religious event. The government does not offer any benefits for the confirmation of a Catholic schoolboy, why does it offer benefits to those who undergo this other sacrament? And why only certain unions? The legal considerations now associated with marriage could be duplicated in legal contracts such as wills for inheritances and living wills for medical care decisions. Equal taxation could be returned to all members of society single or ‘married.’
While this view is controversial, and politically untenable, only a national religion could truly justify our current practices of legally recognizing only certain marriages. While most people are comfortable in this current contradiction, it doesn’t seem to make logical sense.
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