Happy Saturnalia
Ironically, as Christmas emails flood inboxes everywhere (mom!) reminding people about Christian reasons to override the ACLU’s secular winter holiday, most people choose to forget (or simply never knew) the historical origins that predate their beliefs. Those origins being the celebrations that actually took place on the Winter Solstice by the pagans whom the Romans threat… beat… happily converted into Christians nearly 400 years after the so-called birth event took place. Anyway, the total lunar eclipse of 2010 actually makes this particular winter holiday more inclined towards its pagan origins as a rare celestial event coinciding with the actual solstice (having not occurred on this date since 1638). After all, our ancestors tied their calendars and livelihoods to the agricultural cycle and were celebrating the forthcoming longer days as the Earth marched towards planting and harvest season. Celestial events to these ancient peoples were often signs from god, a lunar eclipse simply added a bit of magic to their revelry (or fear).
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Christmas Myth by Occams
by the pagans whom the Romans threat… beat… happily converted into Christians nearly 400 years after the so-called birth event took place.
Matt. You history chronology is wrong. The Romans under Vespasian working for Emperor Claudius invaded Britain in 43 AD, although Julius Caesar had raided briefly in the summers of 55 and 54 BC.
One of the first things Vespasian did was to chase the druids across the country to the island of Anglesea and execute them. So there is no way that the Romans converted the druids to Christians in 400 AD + Romans had their own festivals and saturnalia had been celebrated for centuries in the BCE Republican period. So they had no need to steal the time for it off the Druids.
Anyway this comes up every year. It was common practice to convert the festivals of conquered people into new ones for the conqueror. Christians did it also, especially in the Americas.
It doesn’t matter when Christmas is celebrated. There is nothing magic about the date we use. Even most Christians would say that there is no Biblical justification for Dec 25. Only two of the gospels even mention the Christmas story.
Some scholars claim that the Christmas myth was invented by Matthew to fulfill certain Jewish prophesies, so the real birth was probably quite different. Records from that important historical period of the transition from Republic to Empire are very good. There was no Roman census then, The date is irrelevant and the whole story is also unless you place great weight on those Jewish prophesies. Matt had to invent a story that had the family on the move and in Bethlehem that night because He was most likely born at home in Galilee. All the prophesies really amount to is an “I told you so”. Important for Jews perhaps, but it obviously failed to convince them. For us: So what?